1 00:00:05,990 --> 00:00:04,249 um good morning I'm Kelly kale I'm a UFO 2 00:00:08,990 --> 00:00:06,000 experiencer and on the 8th of August 3 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:09,000 1993 I was involved in a multiple 4 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:11,040 witness close encounter which took place 5 00:00:13,610 --> 00:00:12,480 on the outskirts of Melbourne in 6 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:13,620 Victoria 7 00:00:17,930 --> 00:00:15,719 this case has um been described by many 8 00:00:19,849 --> 00:00:17,940 researchers as possibly the most 9 00:00:21,670 --> 00:00:19,859 credible case in Australian history so 10 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:21,680 far and and what makes it so different 11 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:24,240 to any other encounter is that it 12 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:26,400 involved the testimonies of separate 13 00:00:31,310 --> 00:00:28,800 individual parties of witnesses who were 14 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:31,320 unknown to each other in addition to 15 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:32,820 this a substantial amount of physical 16 00:00:37,330 --> 00:00:35,040 evidence was also recovered during 17 00:00:39,709 --> 00:00:37,340 during the ensuing investigation 18 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:39,719 including ground traces at the encounter 19 00:00:44,030 --> 00:00:41,820 location as well as physical marks left 20 00:00:46,729 --> 00:00:44,040 on the bodies of at least four of the 21 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:46,739 individuals involved including myself 22 00:00:50,690 --> 00:00:48,960 today I'd like to relate to you my own 23 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:50,700 personal involvement in the Emmanuel 24 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,800 Craig encounter as it's officially 25 00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:55,199 titled as well as show you a series of 26 00:00:59,569 --> 00:00:57,360 slides of the comparison sketches 27 00:01:01,790 --> 00:00:59,579 between myself and the second party 28 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:01,800 and also some photographs of both the 29 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:04,019 ground traces and other marks the one 30 00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:05,400 thing that I'd like to stress and I 31 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,740 always do is that because there were 32 00:01:11,270 --> 00:01:09,840 five possibly six individuals involved 33 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:11,280 in the encounter and I was only one of 34 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:13,439 them I can only speak about what I 35 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:15,260 personally perceive to occur that night 36 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:18,000 but where I can do so I'll Endeavor to 37 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,320 fill you in on what I have learned about 38 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:21,600 the second party's participation and 39 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:23,700 just as a clarifier there were three 40 00:01:26,570 --> 00:01:25,439 members in that party one male and two 41 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,580 females 42 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:28,560 for those of you who are familiar with 43 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:30,119 the case you'd already be aware of the 44 00:01:32,749 --> 00:01:31,439 presence of a third party at the 45 00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:32,759 encounter that evening a party 46 00:01:37,550 --> 00:01:35,100 reportedly seen by the second group 47 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:37,560 this lone mail has always been a mystery 48 00:01:40,429 --> 00:01:39,060 to everyone involved with the case but 49 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:40,439 it looks like the mystery is about to 50 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:42,180 come to a close 51 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,439 um for the first time ever I'll be able 52 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:45,119 to offer you a little information on the 53 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:47,340 third party who's only just come forward 54 00:01:51,230 --> 00:01:49,619 after three long years 55 00:01:53,450 --> 00:01:51,240 because of this the last week or two has 56 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:53,460 been pretty exciting for both us 57 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:54,960 experiences involved in the encounter 58 00:01:59,450 --> 00:01:57,600 and the researchers alike not only does 59 00:02:01,609 --> 00:01:59,460 it seem like we've actually found the 60 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,619 one male witness who's been missing uh 61 00:02:05,690 --> 00:02:03,119 been The Missing Link ever since the 62 00:02:07,249 --> 00:02:05,700 case first came to light but uh it also 63 00:02:08,809 --> 00:02:07,259 appears he has his own photographic 64 00:02:11,150 --> 00:02:08,819 evidence of the marks left on his body 65 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:11,160 after the encounter which corresponding 66 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,840 quite a striking way to several of the 67 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,400 marks left on Glenda who was one of the 68 00:02:18,350 --> 00:02:16,319 female members of the second party 69 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:18,360 this is um one of the issues I'll do 70 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:20,879 I'll deal with a little later but for 71 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:22,080 now I'd like to give my own personal 72 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:24,360 rendition of the events which occurred 73 00:02:27,949 --> 00:02:26,160 that night so you can get some idea of 74 00:02:29,089 --> 00:02:27,959 what went on there well at least from my 75 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:29,099 perspective 76 00:02:34,010 --> 00:02:30,720 so this is what happened shortly after 77 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:34,020 midnight on the 8th of August 1993. 78 00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:35,760 um I guess it all really began as my 79 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,500 ex-husband and I were driving home from 80 00:02:41,449 --> 00:02:39,840 a friend's house in the country town of 81 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:41,459 monbok in Victoria 82 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,200 at the time we were driving along 83 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:46,080 belgrave Hallam road which is between a 84 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,720 small Victorian town of belgrave and the 85 00:02:52,309 --> 00:02:50,400 outer Melbourne suburb of Narre Warren 86 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:52,319 which I'll um show you on a map if I can 87 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,080 get this thing working 88 00:02:59,390 --> 00:02:57,480 yeah there we go 89 00:03:02,270 --> 00:02:59,400 um toward the bottom of the map you can 90 00:03:04,430 --> 00:03:02,280 see where Suburbia begins and that's 91 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:04,440 Narre Warren North if you follow the 92 00:03:08,150 --> 00:03:07,080 main road there along towards the top of 93 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:08,160 the map eventually you'll come to 94 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:09,660 belgrave it's actually not on that map 95 00:03:13,369 --> 00:03:11,459 on that night we were coming from 96 00:03:15,649 --> 00:03:13,379 belgrave towards Narre Warren in other 97 00:03:17,449 --> 00:03:15,659 words we were um coming from the top to 98 00:03:19,610 --> 00:03:17,459 the bottom of the map 99 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:19,620 as we were driving we spotted something 100 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,420 which at first appeared to resemble a 101 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:24,000 lit up blimp it was hovering in the sky 102 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:26,340 above the road at approximately twice 103 00:03:30,770 --> 00:03:28,620 the height of the Treetops and as we 104 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:30,780 drove closer it became more defined and 105 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:32,640 seemed to be a structure consisting of a 106 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:35,340 row of round orange lights at the time I 107 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:37,140 assumed that these lights were Windows 108 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:39,300 because there appeared to be figures or 109 00:03:43,610 --> 00:03:41,220 at least silhouettes of figures standing 110 00:03:46,369 --> 00:03:43,620 in them and I commented to my husband on 111 00:03:47,809 --> 00:03:46,379 the people in the windows and it was 112 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:47,819 almost as if I had been heard the craft 113 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:49,200 just shot off to the left from a 114 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,260 standing star it accelerated at an 115 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:54,480 incredible speed and within about two 116 00:03:59,210 --> 00:03:56,760 seconds it had completely disappeared 117 00:04:01,130 --> 00:03:59,220 obviously we were both pretty amazed at 118 00:04:02,809 --> 00:04:01,140 what we just seen and um we continue to 119 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,819 talk about it as we drove further on 120 00:04:06,530 --> 00:04:04,080 down the road 121 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:06,540 after about a kilometer or two we were 122 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:08,940 confronted by I guess what I can only 123 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:10,739 describe as a barrier a very bright 124 00:04:13,970 --> 00:04:12,840 light that seemed to block off the 125 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:13,980 entire Road 126 00:04:17,629 --> 00:04:16,079 it's also at this point where I lost all 127 00:04:19,870 --> 00:04:17,639 conscious recollection of the ensuing 128 00:04:22,009 --> 00:04:19,880 events until a few weeks later 129 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:22,019 the light that we came across in that 130 00:04:26,330 --> 00:04:23,940 location was so bright that I found it 131 00:04:28,249 --> 00:04:26,340 necessary to use my my hand to shade my 132 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:28,259 eyes and in order to peer through the 133 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:31,320 windscreen by that stage my heart was 134 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:33,300 was pounding with excitement and the 135 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:34,680 adrenaline was racing through my body 136 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:36,660 and the last thing I remember saying to 137 00:04:41,810 --> 00:04:38,639 my husband was a I can't believe this 138 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:41,820 we're really going to see a UFO and in 139 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:43,380 the next instant we were still sitting 140 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:45,360 in the car although we appeared to be 141 00:04:51,170 --> 00:04:47,340 going a lot slower and it covered some 142 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:51,180 distance and my heartbeat was calm and I 143 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:52,860 was totally disorientated as if I'd 144 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:54,540 missed something and I said to my 145 00:04:58,430 --> 00:04:56,340 husband weren't we going to see a UFO or 146 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,440 something and he said I think so and he 147 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:00,479 seemed just as disorientated as I was 148 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:03,300 but after a few minutes he seemed to 149 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:04,800 regain his composure and we spent the 150 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:07,380 rest of our trip home arguing that uh I 151 00:05:10,969 --> 00:05:09,000 believed I'd had a blackout 152 00:05:12,469 --> 00:05:10,979 and when we arrived home and checked the 153 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:12,479 clock it seemed that an hour to an hour 154 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:13,800 and a half ago I'm missing from our 155 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:16,380 lives and that night I also discovered a 156 00:05:20,689 --> 00:05:19,080 red triangular Mark beneath my navel a 157 00:05:22,249 --> 00:05:20,699 perfect equilateral triangle that looked 158 00:05:24,050 --> 00:05:22,259 like a little red burn 159 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:24,060 and as well as that I'd started bleeding 160 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:25,740 and this continued for three to three 161 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:26,940 and a half weeks until I was 162 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:28,500 hospitalized with an infection in the 163 00:05:33,950 --> 00:05:31,860 womb um which is a that was a problem 164 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:33,960 for which there was no logical medical 165 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:35,580 explanation 166 00:05:39,770 --> 00:05:37,860 what I find to be interesting about the 167 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:39,780 point in the road where we can we're 168 00:05:43,129 --> 00:05:41,160 confronted by the barrier of light is 169 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:43,139 the extremely unusual experience a 170 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:45,180 second party underwent in roughly the 171 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:47,580 same location they'd arrived at this 172 00:05:51,469 --> 00:05:49,080 particular point about 10 minutes before 173 00:05:53,629 --> 00:05:51,479 us and they'd all instantly been 174 00:05:55,249 --> 00:05:53,639 overcome with such severe nausea that 175 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:55,259 they lost control of the car spun out 176 00:05:59,150 --> 00:05:57,060 and hit a pole 177 00:06:00,650 --> 00:05:59,160 um although from what I was told there 178 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:00,660 was little Damage Done To the Car itself 179 00:06:03,469 --> 00:06:02,039 they were forced to sit on the side of 180 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:03,479 the road until they felt well enough to 181 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:04,400 travel 182 00:06:08,689 --> 00:06:06,419 then just as they were about to pull 183 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:08,699 back onto the road uh two other cars 184 00:06:12,770 --> 00:06:10,080 passed them one of which they believed 185 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:12,780 to be ours and the other a third vehicle 186 00:06:18,170 --> 00:06:15,600 which they later reported to be parked 187 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:18,180 approximately 25 meters behind them at 188 00:06:23,629 --> 00:06:22,319 the actual encounter and encounter scene 189 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:23,639 um 190 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:25,199 all right 191 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:27,900 there we go right the first point marked 192 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:29,699 out on the roadmap the one by itself up 193 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:31,680 the top there point a 194 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:33,060 um is where the second party had their 195 00:06:37,070 --> 00:06:34,800 minor accident and also where I believe 196 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:37,080 to have encountered the barrier of light 197 00:06:40,689 --> 00:06:39,000 and as we all drove into the encounter 198 00:06:42,830 --> 00:06:40,699 scene together the lower location 199 00:06:44,510 --> 00:06:42,840 marks show the order in which we are 200 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:44,520 prepared to pull up when we cited the 201 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:47,039 craft in the field the first car right 202 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:48,720 down the bottom car number one is where 203 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,300 my husband and myself stopped car number 204 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:54,240 three was the car following us which was 205 00:06:58,850 --> 00:06:56,880 reported by the second party and then it 206 00:07:01,309 --> 00:06:58,860 appears that the second party themselves 207 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:01,319 then pulled up between both of us in 208 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:03,180 position number two there 209 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:05,039 before I continue with the actual 210 00:07:09,230 --> 00:07:06,840 encounter details I'd just like to 211 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:09,240 quickly describe how the memories of the 212 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:11,880 encounter events returned to me it was 213 00:07:15,770 --> 00:07:13,740 really strange um that a human being 214 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:15,780 could actually forget something so 215 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:17,400 obviously powerful but that's exactly 216 00:07:21,950 --> 00:07:19,440 what happened and it it wasn't until a 217 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:21,960 number of weeks later when we were 218 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:23,460 traveling along that same road again 219 00:07:29,089 --> 00:07:26,639 that this sitting time bomb went off and 220 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:29,099 for no reason at all I was um suddenly 221 00:07:32,930 --> 00:07:30,660 overcome by the most incredible 222 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:32,940 sensation of horror and my gut literally 223 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:35,520 sang as if someone had died and and from 224 00:07:38,749 --> 00:07:37,199 that moment on I began to recall what 225 00:07:41,330 --> 00:07:38,759 had happened after we confronted the 226 00:07:43,309 --> 00:07:41,340 light and this memory it wasn't 227 00:07:45,890 --> 00:07:43,319 something that could could even begin to 228 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:45,900 be compared to a dream or imagination it 229 00:07:51,469 --> 00:07:48,240 was real memory of real experience 230 00:07:53,210 --> 00:07:51,479 I knew then with absolute surety that 231 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:53,220 we'd been involved in a close encounter 232 00:07:57,290 --> 00:07:55,020 and and sitting in the car when all this 233 00:07:58,850 --> 00:07:57,300 was coming back to me I I just I felt 234 00:08:01,249 --> 00:07:58,860 like I wanted to scream this can't be 235 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:01,259 happening and I went into absolute shock 236 00:08:07,850 --> 00:08:03,120 uh 237 00:08:09,650 --> 00:08:07,860 probably for the next few months I 238 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:09,660 thought I was going absolutely crazy but 239 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,880 uh these days with the the field 240 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:13,680 evidence and a second party of witnesses 241 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:15,300 and just recently a third individual 242 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:17,520 well that theory sort of went out the 243 00:08:19,850 --> 00:08:18,599 window 244 00:08:21,469 --> 00:08:19,860 anyway 245 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:21,479 um when we stopped the car we got out 246 00:08:24,830 --> 00:08:23,400 and crossed the road and I noticed the 247 00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:24,840 second car and its occupants doing the 248 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:26,639 same that was the one thing I was very 249 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:28,500 insisted upon when I first went forward 250 00:08:31,969 --> 00:08:30,300 to researchers that there were other 251 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:31,979 people at the same encounter location 252 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:34,380 and there was no doubt in my mind that 253 00:08:37,969 --> 00:08:36,120 they'd also left their vehicle and cross 254 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:37,979 the road as we'd done and that 255 00:08:41,329 --> 00:08:39,659 insistence was what actually prompted 256 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:41,339 the search for the second party who then 257 00:08:48,230 --> 00:08:43,080 approached researchers about six weeks 258 00:08:52,610 --> 00:08:50,690 this um photograph taken from the field 259 00:08:54,769 --> 00:08:52,620 itself gives you a general idea of the 260 00:08:57,650 --> 00:08:54,779 Topography of the area the road running 261 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:57,660 around the top of the field uh over 262 00:09:00,910 --> 00:08:59,519 there on the left you can just see it in 263 00:09:03,290 --> 00:09:00,920 the corner 264 00:09:05,690 --> 00:09:03,300 was where we all pulled up our party 265 00:09:08,389 --> 00:09:05,700 right near the top there the second 266 00:09:09,889 --> 00:09:08,399 party about 100 meters behind us and the 267 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:09,899 Third vehicle a little further down the 268 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:11,600 road just a bit outside the photograph 269 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:13,920 the full front view of the field here is 270 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:16,800 is where the craft was approximately 170 271 00:09:22,009 --> 00:09:19,260 meters in from the side of the road 272 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:22,019 according to the second group The Third 273 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:24,060 vehicle contained a single male occupant 274 00:09:27,769 --> 00:09:25,140 who stayed in the car with the 275 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:27,779 headlights on and uh later researchers 276 00:09:31,610 --> 00:09:30,300 recreating was seen um under similar 277 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:31,620 conditions discovered that the only 278 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:33,720 feasible reason why I'd been able to see 279 00:09:37,790 --> 00:09:35,519 the second party at all was solely 280 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:37,800 because they at their car and and they 281 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:39,360 were backlit by the headlights of the 282 00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:41,760 third car at that stage there weren't 283 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:43,500 any Street lamps on that particular road 284 00:09:48,350 --> 00:09:46,560 so um without the headlights from the 285 00:09:50,269 --> 00:09:48,360 third car the second group would have 286 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:50,279 been almost impossible to see and and 287 00:09:53,570 --> 00:09:52,019 this also explains why the second party 288 00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:53,580 hadn't seen us ahead of them at the 289 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:55,740 encounter scene although they had seen 290 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:57,839 us passing them a kilometer or so back 291 00:10:01,250 --> 00:09:59,760 down the road 292 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:01,260 um that little problem turned out to be 293 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:02,760 quite a blessing in the long run because 294 00:10:07,490 --> 00:10:04,980 it provided grounds for extremely 295 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:07,500 unbiased research um not only were the 296 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:09,240 other Witnesses able to take researchers 297 00:10:13,790 --> 00:10:12,360 back to the same location as myself but 298 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:13,800 also the sketches we all Drew of The 299 00:10:17,690 --> 00:10:15,660 Craft and beans were drawn independently 300 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:17,700 mine in the beginning when the second 301 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:20,580 party hadn't yet been located and 302 00:10:23,329 --> 00:10:22,080 there's a little later without being 303 00:10:25,009 --> 00:10:23,339 aware that someone else had also 304 00:10:27,050 --> 00:10:25,019 observed the same thing 305 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:27,060 the second party wasn't made aware of 306 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:29,040 our presence that evening until the 307 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:30,540 research on their roles in the encounter 308 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:32,160 had been completed which was well into 309 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:34,620 the following year 310 00:10:38,329 --> 00:10:36,360 um as for the third party up until a 311 00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:38,339 week ago the occupant or the other car 312 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:39,959 still hadn't been located but in 313 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:41,519 response to a recent article in who 314 00:10:45,410 --> 00:10:43,620 magazine it seems that there is very 315 00:10:47,569 --> 00:10:45,420 real chance that our mysterious third 316 00:10:50,090 --> 00:10:47,579 party has finally been found his um 317 00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:50,100 stories in particulars matched many of 318 00:10:54,650 --> 00:10:52,500 the detailed criteria researchers were 319 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:54,660 actually looking for details that not 320 00:10:59,170 --> 00:10:56,640 even I or the other party were aware of 321 00:11:02,150 --> 00:10:59,180 and just to give you an example 322 00:11:04,130 --> 00:11:02,160 Jane one of the late members the female 323 00:11:07,009 --> 00:11:04,140 members from the second party actually 324 00:11:09,949 --> 00:11:07,019 reported seeing I think it was a red a 325 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:09,959 red dragon lit up before the encounter 326 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:11,519 and the researchers could never actually 327 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:14,640 figure out what this meant and this uh 328 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,820 this letter that was received 329 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:19,440 along with the photographs actually 330 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:22,260 stated that um there might be something 331 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:25,260 that we could all relate to a signifier 332 00:11:30,829 --> 00:11:28,800 if any of us had seen they had some sort 333 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:30,839 of a logo on their car which was a 334 00:11:35,690 --> 00:11:33,959 fluorescent and it was a red dragon and 335 00:11:38,090 --> 00:11:35,700 with a dark car in the night it looked 336 00:11:39,949 --> 00:11:38,100 like a red a red dragon flying past so 337 00:11:42,829 --> 00:11:39,959 these were the little indicators that 338 00:11:43,490 --> 00:11:42,839 researchers were actually looking for 339 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:43,500 um 340 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:44,820 it also appears that his own 341 00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:46,140 photographic evidence of the physical 342 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:48,000 marks on his body correspond with the 343 00:11:53,269 --> 00:11:50,399 three circular marks found on the inside 344 00:11:55,970 --> 00:11:53,279 thigh of both the female members of the 345 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:55,980 second party as well as a match to the 346 00:12:01,550 --> 00:11:59,040 ligature Mark around Glenda's left ankle 347 00:12:03,230 --> 00:12:01,560 for the moment all I really know is that 348 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:03,240 the individual involved is a lawyer of 349 00:12:07,370 --> 00:12:04,860 sorts and lives locally to where the 350 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:07,380 encounter took place 351 00:12:11,210 --> 00:12:09,839 um pra phenomena research Australia is 352 00:12:13,009 --> 00:12:11,220 hoping to secure 353 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:13,019 um further detailed information on the 354 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:15,060 third party in the near future and I 355 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:16,800 believe that when this happens it'll uh 356 00:12:19,850 --> 00:12:18,300 provide one of the best testimonies of 357 00:12:22,009 --> 00:12:19,860 individual witnesses to have ever been 358 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:22,019 presented anywhere in the world and this 359 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:23,519 case has already become a landmark in 360 00:12:26,930 --> 00:12:25,260 Australian ufology and and could 361 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:26,940 possibly become a case decider on the 362 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:29,040 UFO phenomena for people everywhere and 363 00:12:32,630 --> 00:12:30,720 I'm not saying that because this is my 364 00:12:34,430 --> 00:12:32,640 case but because there were other people 365 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:34,440 there who saw and experienced the same 366 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:36,000 phenomena and that's just about as real 367 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:37,740 as you can get 368 00:12:42,050 --> 00:12:39,720 anyway I'm getting a little sidetracked 369 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:42,060 here um to continue on with the story is 370 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:43,260 my husband and I stood watching The 371 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:44,880 Craft about 10 meters in from the side 372 00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:47,339 of the road and here might actually be a 373 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:48,959 good time to describe the craft so you 374 00:12:51,650 --> 00:12:50,399 can get a good idea of exactly what we 375 00:12:53,629 --> 00:12:51,660 were looking at 376 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:53,639 uh 377 00:12:57,889 --> 00:12:55,740 sorry 378 00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:57,899 about that this is a copy of the 379 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:00,720 original sketch I submitted to phenomena 380 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:02,100 research Australia during the early 381 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:03,839 research process 382 00:13:07,069 --> 00:13:05,760 um sorry about the quality but that's 383 00:13:08,949 --> 00:13:07,079 what happens when you're forced to use 384 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:08,959 your kids crayons 385 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:12,240 the craft we saw consisted of a row of 386 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:13,920 round orange lights a little like large 387 00:13:19,310 --> 00:13:16,380 Amber traffic lights and when I say 388 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:19,320 large I mean huge they each would have 389 00:13:23,629 --> 00:13:20,880 been big enough for a person to stand up 390 00:13:25,569 --> 00:13:23,639 in full length beneath these circles was 391 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:25,579 a formation of blue fluorescent light 392 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:28,440 and whether or not it was solid or 393 00:13:31,790 --> 00:13:29,940 gaseous is something that I'm actually 394 00:13:33,530 --> 00:13:31,800 not sure of although it certainly seemed 395 00:13:35,210 --> 00:13:33,540 to be a part of the structure of The 396 00:13:36,889 --> 00:13:35,220 Craft 397 00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:36,899 um this blue light structure descended 398 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:39,440 from the orange circles in a a 399 00:13:46,009 --> 00:13:42,180 conical fashion and hit the ground in a 400 00:13:47,870 --> 00:13:46,019 in a semi-circular or crescent shape 401 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:47,880 um the semicircle was actually one of 402 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,399 the ground traces recovered as a 403 00:13:54,829 --> 00:13:52,320 magnetic anomaly on the field 404 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:54,839 where I've drawn the comparison scale of 405 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:56,279 a human being to the craft down the 406 00:13:59,269 --> 00:13:57,360 bottom I've been assured through 407 00:14:01,850 --> 00:13:59,279 research estimates that that this scale 408 00:14:03,650 --> 00:14:01,860 was relatively accurate um uh and 409 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:03,660 through using trigonometry pra we're 410 00:14:07,550 --> 00:14:05,040 able to ascertain that the approximate 411 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:07,560 diameter of the craft was something uh 412 00:14:11,870 --> 00:14:09,600 like 50 meters or the the length of an 413 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:11,880 Olympic swimming pool and to me out 414 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:12,959 there that night it was probably about 415 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:14,820 the height of a two to three story house 416 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:16,680 so you can see why we wouldn't have been 417 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:18,360 able to mistake it for something like a 418 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:24,769 these are the sketches of The Craft 419 00:14:28,370 --> 00:14:26,459 submitted by Jane and Glenda the two 420 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:28,380 female members of the second party 421 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:29,940 um noticed that although slightly 422 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,720 different 423 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:32,160 um the craft has the same basic 424 00:14:36,590 --> 00:14:34,500 structure which obviously isn't the um 425 00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:36,600 saucer-shaped object so often expected 426 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,639 and like myself they both grew the 427 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:40,320 Crescent shape beneath the beneath the 428 00:14:47,329 --> 00:14:42,660 craft but um here they've they've also 429 00:14:50,030 --> 00:14:48,290 um 430 00:14:52,490 --> 00:14:50,040 oh this is something that I actually 431 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:52,500 admitted on my own drawing um because I 432 00:14:57,050 --> 00:14:54,899 didn't notice it on the night and if I 433 00:14:58,670 --> 00:14:57,060 as I assumed I wasn't wearing my glasses 434 00:15:01,009 --> 00:14:58,680 and this it doesn't really surprise me 435 00:15:02,990 --> 00:15:01,019 much but um the tripod obviously was a 436 00:15:04,910 --> 00:15:03,000 part of the craft because uh the 437 00:15:06,590 --> 00:15:04,920 corresponding ground traces in a 438 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:06,600 triangular formation were also found 439 00:15:16,129 --> 00:15:13,569 just as a matter of Interest 440 00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:16,139 I was recently shown these photos from 441 00:15:20,449 --> 00:15:18,600 South America and I I couldn't help but 442 00:15:22,430 --> 00:15:20,459 notice the the similarity in the orange 443 00:15:24,009 --> 00:15:22,440 circles if you could imagine a blue 444 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:24,019 fluorescent structure beneath the 445 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:26,940 beneath the orange lights here in these 446 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:28,620 photos and it would come pretty close to 447 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:37,550 these are the marks left by the tripod 448 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:39,839 sketched by both Jane and Glenda they 449 00:15:43,370 --> 00:15:41,279 were found within the Crescent shaped 450 00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:43,380 anomaly and and that we believe to have 451 00:15:46,329 --> 00:15:44,940 been caused by the blue light structure 452 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:46,339 beneath the craft 453 00:15:50,269 --> 00:15:48,360 these are actually three individual 454 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:50,279 photos taken of each Mark and arranged 455 00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:52,320 vertically for display purposes 456 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:54,540 but out on the field they were in a 457 00:15:59,389 --> 00:15:56,100 triangular formation 458 00:16:02,030 --> 00:15:59,399 um spaced approximately six meters apart 459 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:02,040 um this is a microscopic shot of a blade 460 00:16:05,569 --> 00:16:04,260 of foliage in the in the Crescent area 461 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:05,579 um there appears to be some kind of 462 00:16:10,189 --> 00:16:08,160 abrasion to the leaf and all the foliage 463 00:16:12,650 --> 00:16:10,199 including the grass within the Crescent 464 00:16:14,569 --> 00:16:12,660 was damaged in the same way again the 465 00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:14,579 surrounding areas showed no ill effect 466 00:16:17,569 --> 00:16:15,959 at all 467 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:17,579 that's all I really have to show you 468 00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:19,199 concerning the physical ground traces 469 00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:20,940 although I believe there were several 470 00:16:25,069 --> 00:16:22,980 other anomalies discovered 471 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:25,079 um but for those I guess we'll all have 472 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,399 to wait for the release of the official 473 00:16:31,250 --> 00:16:28,160 report on this case to find out anymore 474 00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:31,260 John Alcatel and pra have indicated that 475 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,699 they'd like to have the report released 476 00:16:36,650 --> 00:16:34,800 by the end of this year so if all goes 477 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:36,660 well all this information and hopefully 478 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:38,519 a lot more will become readily available 479 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:40,620 to the General Public 480 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,880 anyway 481 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:43,680 um this time I've really gotten off the 482 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,880 track I've been I've been meaning to get 483 00:16:48,410 --> 00:16:46,800 to the main part of the encounter which 484 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,420 was the actual contact 485 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:50,160 UM in some ways it's actually quite a 486 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:51,300 relief for me that you've had the chance 487 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,800 to view some of the physical data 488 00:16:56,930 --> 00:16:54,959 beforehand because what happens next 489 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,940 sounds more like something out of a b 490 00:17:01,249 --> 00:16:58,800 grade science fiction movie than reality 491 00:17:03,769 --> 00:17:01,259 yet it was as real to me as those ground 492 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:03,779 traces are to researchers 493 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:05,339 um when my husband and I were standing 494 00:17:09,470 --> 00:17:07,199 on the side of the field watching the 495 00:17:12,110 --> 00:17:09,480 craft a tall black being seemed to 496 00:17:13,789 --> 00:17:12,120 appear right in front of it one second 497 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:13,799 it wasn't there the next second it was 498 00:17:17,390 --> 00:17:15,540 and this was followed by the appearance 499 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:17,400 of seven or eight similar beings um 500 00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:20,160 right behind him that's when I felt the 501 00:17:23,870 --> 00:17:22,380 energy force um it hit me like a ton of 502 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,880 lead the only way I can describe this 503 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:26,160 Force is is to say that it was well at 504 00:17:30,409 --> 00:17:27,839 least what I believe to be a low level 505 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,419 frequency so powerful 506 00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:32,880 um that it was if waves of energy were 507 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:34,559 being pumped through my body I could 508 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,900 literally feel them emotionally all I 509 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,840 felt was absolute Terror um it was as if 510 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:42,000 I'd been stripped of all of my logical 511 00:17:46,669 --> 00:17:44,340 comprehension and left with um little 512 00:17:48,890 --> 00:17:46,679 more than raw emotional instinct to 513 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:48,900 reason with and I really think that now 514 00:17:52,970 --> 00:17:50,700 I can understand the terror of a wild 515 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:52,980 animal when it's been cornered up until 516 00:17:58,010 --> 00:17:56,100 that moment all I'd felt was an absolute 517 00:17:59,570 --> 00:17:58,020 sense of awe I gotten out of the car 518 00:18:01,730 --> 00:17:59,580 with a smile on my face that I couldn't 519 00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:01,740 have wiped off if I'd have tried and yet 520 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,299 within a second that that Wonder 521 00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:05,760 instantly turned to horror and this is 522 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:08,100 also the point where I believe the 523 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:09,660 experience of myself and the second 524 00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:12,600 party uh diverged a little bit after 525 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:14,220 seeing the craft and the beings the 526 00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:15,780 others report hearing a humming noise 527 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,120 and then blacking out only to find them 528 00:18:21,890 --> 00:18:20,400 somehow a cell somehow I'm transported 529 00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:21,900 on board the craft 530 00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:24,120 as for me I was subjected to an energy 531 00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:27,720 force so powerful that these days that's 532 00:18:31,549 --> 00:18:29,580 exactly what I believe it was meant to 533 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:31,559 do to to knock me unconscious yet it 534 00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:33,480 didn't quite work the other two women 535 00:18:39,049 --> 00:18:36,660 report only a um a profound sense of of 536 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,059 calm and peace on the field and their 537 00:18:43,010 --> 00:18:41,280 their own personal interpretation is is 538 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:43,020 totally different to the hysteria that 539 00:18:47,690 --> 00:18:46,080 laced my interpretation I've often 540 00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,700 wondered if I had have been knocked 541 00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:49,679 unconscious by that energy force in 542 00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:52,020 instead of being forced to experience it 543 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:54,059 there may be I'd have only uh had 544 00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:55,740 recollection of that incredible sense of 545 00:19:00,049 --> 00:18:57,360 ore I was feeling only moments before 546 00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,059 but instead I I became absolutely 547 00:19:04,669 --> 00:19:01,919 hysterical and began screaming that they 548 00:19:06,409 --> 00:19:04,679 had no souls and at that moment I was 549 00:19:09,169 --> 00:19:06,419 absolutely convinced of the accuracy of 550 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,179 that statement I truly believe that the 551 00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:11,520 beings we were witnessing had no souls 552 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:14,340 I've never been able to explain that 553 00:19:19,789 --> 00:19:16,620 conclusion quite adequately but um 554 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:19,799 except to say rather than by any other 555 00:19:23,690 --> 00:19:21,480 means I felt it 556 00:19:26,570 --> 00:19:23,700 in reaction to my yelling the being's 557 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,580 eyes then seems to light up a a blazing 558 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,559 red color and they came rushing across 559 00:19:32,570 --> 00:19:30,720 the field towards us about halfway 560 00:19:34,669 --> 00:19:32,580 across the field they split up into two 561 00:19:36,289 --> 00:19:34,679 groups one heading towards the occupants 562 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:36,299 of the second vehicle who were 100 563 00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:38,820 meters further down the road from us and 564 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:41,580 the rest of them heading towards us they 565 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:43,380 didn't seem to be running they actually 566 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:44,880 seemed to be gliding a little bit off 567 00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:46,440 the ground 568 00:19:51,409 --> 00:19:49,740 this is um the original sketch of the 569 00:19:54,289 --> 00:19:51,419 bangs that I submitted to pra in the 570 00:19:56,090 --> 00:19:54,299 research process besides the black or 571 00:19:59,090 --> 00:19:56,100 dark faces there were no other 572 00:20:01,850 --> 00:19:59,100 distinguishable features but the eyes 573 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:04,490 likewise Jane and Glenda's sketches of 574 00:20:07,610 --> 00:20:05,520 the beings also had the same 575 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,620 similarities in in both the shape and 576 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:09,600 and the absence of mouth nose or any 577 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,280 other facial features but the big round 578 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:12,480 eyes 579 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,980 um this in itself is quite unusual 580 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,840 because as most of you would already 581 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:18,000 know most abductees depictions of the 582 00:20:22,010 --> 00:20:20,100 beings they see usually include large 583 00:20:26,330 --> 00:20:22,020 but but slanted eyes 584 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,669 anyway in the uh three or four seconds 585 00:20:33,049 --> 00:20:30,960 it took these beings to cross the 170 586 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:33,059 meters between us all I could do was 587 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:35,460 stand there not so much physically 588 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:38,160 paralyzed but totally transfixed um 589 00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:40,260 there really was no time to do anything 590 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,140 else all I could fix on was the Blazing 591 00:20:47,870 --> 00:20:45,600 red eyes I often get asked um if 592 00:20:49,490 --> 00:20:47,880 anything else if I noticed anything else 593 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,500 like hands or feet but there there 594 00:20:52,669 --> 00:20:51,120 really wasn't any time when you're 595 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,679 confronted with something so frightening 596 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:54,720 the the Minor Details aren't something 597 00:20:59,810 --> 00:20:57,120 you you uh tend to spend a lot of time 598 00:21:01,310 --> 00:20:59,820 looking for when you put in a situation 599 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:01,320 like that the last thing you're thinking 600 00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:03,900 is oh I probably got 1.23 seconds left 601 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:05,460 to live but wait first I have to find 602 00:21:09,650 --> 00:21:06,840 out what color nail polish they're 603 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,660 wearing doesn't sort of work that way 604 00:21:13,370 --> 00:21:11,760 um most of you have probably had a 605 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:13,380 nightmare at some stage in your lives 606 00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:14,700 and you'd know the fear that you 607 00:21:18,169 --> 00:21:16,500 experience in a nightmare is is much 608 00:21:19,789 --> 00:21:18,179 more powerful than any fear that you 609 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:19,799 could possibly encounter in real life 610 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:22,440 and well the fear that I felt out there 611 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,059 that night was like my worst nightmare 612 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,679 coming to life 613 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:27,840 um and just to give you some idea of 614 00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:29,760 exactly how terrified I was I was later 615 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:31,860 on forced to put my head between my 616 00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:34,320 knees and throw up out of sheer fear 617 00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:37,500 as I stood there the next thing I felt 618 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,419 was a blow to my stomach that landed me 619 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:41,760 flat on the back in the grass it 620 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:44,280 literally lifted me off of my feet I was 621 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:46,980 winded and I was nauseous but I still 622 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:48,360 managed to pull myself into a sitting 623 00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:50,580 position only because I had this intense 624 00:21:55,010 --> 00:21:53,220 fear that I was going to die if I didn't 625 00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:55,020 um it was then when I sat up that I 626 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,820 realized I couldn't see and I spent the 627 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,799 rest of the encounter or at least what I 628 00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:01,200 can recall of it sitting on my backside 629 00:22:06,649 --> 00:22:04,380 in the grass totally blinded all I could 630 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:06,659 do was hear and feel 631 00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:08,580 there's an exchange of words out on the 632 00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:10,620 side of the field which involved one 633 00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:12,780 audible male voice utilizing cliche 634 00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:14,280 lines such as we're a peaceful people 635 00:22:19,789 --> 00:22:16,919 which was pretty hard to believe after 636 00:22:21,770 --> 00:22:19,799 what had just happened to me and for the 637 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:21,780 rest of my conscious recollection which 638 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:23,880 I can only describe as as scattered at 639 00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:27,240 best all I can clearly remember doing is 640 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:29,640 raving about demons and evil and a 641 00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:31,620 throwback to my religious conditioning I 642 00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:32,340 guess 643 00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:34,440 um yet even so I was totally convinced 644 00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:35,640 and I still am that I was in the 645 00:22:40,130 --> 00:22:37,860 presence of something totally diabolical 646 00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:40,140 at the very last stage of my conscious 647 00:22:43,610 --> 00:22:41,820 recollection I remember a ham being 648 00:22:45,169 --> 00:22:43,620 placed on my shoulder in response to 649 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:45,179 this male Voice's command will someone 650 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:47,640 do something about her 651 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:49,260 um and that was it for me I began 652 00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:51,000 invoking the name of God as if there was 653 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:52,500 no tomorrow and the next thing I recall 654 00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:55,260 was being back in the car severely 655 00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,419 disorientated and wondering what on 656 00:22:59,810 --> 00:22:59,039 Earth had happened 657 00:23:01,490 --> 00:22:59,820 um 658 00:23:03,409 --> 00:23:01,500 although the incident I just described 659 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,419 could have taken no longer than five to 660 00:23:07,490 --> 00:23:05,520 ten minute minutes I'm still faced with 661 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,500 um The Dilemma of over an hour of 662 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,840 missing time and likewise the second 663 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,000 party also reported a similar amount of 664 00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:14,400 unaccountable time lapse 665 00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:16,500 from the other side Jane and Glenda 666 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:19,260 reported somehow being transported on 667 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,720 board the craft they related the ability 668 00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:23,700 to telepathically communicate with each 669 00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:26,100 other under these circumstances and at 670 00:23:30,289 --> 00:23:28,679 all stages of the onboard activity each 671 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,299 was aware of what was happening to the 672 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:32,640 other the two women state that they were 673 00:23:36,890 --> 00:23:34,500 strapped down to tables and medically 674 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:36,900 examined but there certainly seems to be 675 00:23:41,930 --> 00:23:39,900 physical evidence to support that but 676 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:41,940 first uh 677 00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,159 another thing that really interests me 678 00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:46,559 on board the craft Glenda reported 679 00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,299 seeing this being again with no other 680 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:50,880 facial features but the eyes this 681 00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:52,740 particular sketches is of interest to me 682 00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:55,440 because of the robes that it was wearing 683 00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:57,720 in the aftermath of the encounter I was 684 00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,640 subjected to four bedside manifestations 685 00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,159 over a five-month period of the same 686 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,080 kind of tall dark Bean dressed in a 687 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:06,720 black hooded floor-length robe 688 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:08,820 this diagram indicates the places on 689 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,700 Glenda's body where she was marked all 690 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:13,200 three of us women were branded with a 691 00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:15,380 triangular Mark below our navels 692 00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:17,820 although I still still have no idea of 693 00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:19,559 where mine came from because I've no 694 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:21,179 further recollection of anything other 695 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:22,860 than being on the side of the field and 696 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:28,490 this is a photograph of of the inside of 697 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:31,260 one of the other ladies legs both women 698 00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:32,940 from the second party were marked with 699 00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:34,620 this vertical line of three round dots 700 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,780 on their inner thighs it now seems that 701 00:24:41,049 --> 00:24:38,220 the male occupant of the Third vehicle 702 00:24:43,490 --> 00:24:41,059 was also branded with the same marking 703 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:43,500 it's a mark which Pras just recently 704 00:24:49,730 --> 00:24:47,760 acquired photographic evidence for uh 705 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:49,740 finally this is a photograph of the 706 00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:52,020 ligature mark on Glenda's ankle which 707 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,700 corresponds in quite a dramatic way with 708 00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,200 her claimed or being strapped down to a 709 00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:58,080 table on board again the male member of 710 00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,120 the third party was left with a similar 711 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,159 ligature mark on on the same ankle the 712 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,320 left one 713 00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,960 there were also other physical problems 714 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:09,200 with with both women in the second party 715 00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:11,820 but because these were problems were 716 00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,380 gynological I think that should be up to 717 00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:15,120 them if they to decide if they want to 718 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,820 discuss it in public suffice to say that 719 00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:20,400 all of us women suffered some form of 720 00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:22,140 gynological disturbance after the 721 00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:23,520 encounter 722 00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:28,200 for myself there were ongoing scenarios 723 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,600 of of bedside manifestations and strange 724 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,360 electrical disturbances um for quite 725 00:25:37,730 --> 00:25:36,240 some time afterwards these are quite in 726 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:37,740 depth and I could go on talking about 727 00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:39,480 them for hours but um I don't really 728 00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:41,220 have the time for that this morning so 729 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:42,900 if any of you are still curious about 730 00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:44,520 the after effects they've been quite 731 00:25:47,570 --> 00:25:46,500 thoroughly detailed in my book encounter 732 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:47,580 which is available here at the 733 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:48,840 conference 734 00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:52,080 um so far as it is all I've really given 735 00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:53,940 you is an overall view of the physical 736 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,640 events of the encounter but it seems 737 00:26:00,649 --> 00:25:59,279 that the effects on my life including my 738 00:26:03,289 --> 00:26:00,659 perceptions and beliefs have all 739 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:03,299 radically altered since the experience 740 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:06,659 and continue to do so Realms of thought 741 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:08,580 processes and spiritual awareness have 742 00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,200 really opened up on a new level for me 743 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:12,659 and and these days I find myself in a 744 00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:13,980 Labyrinth of possibilities and 745 00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:15,720 understandings that would never have 746 00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:17,220 come to light if it wasn't for the 747 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,020 encounter it seems to have been a 748 00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:21,840 trigger to a new awareness that the 749 00:26:25,370 --> 00:26:23,400 world and our perception of it is only 750 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:25,380 very limited if we're only able to view 751 00:26:31,970 --> 00:26:28,860 it in one very logical or boxed off why 752 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,980 a UFO encounter has a way of shattering 753 00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:34,559 a person's entire concept of reality and 754 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,140 then eventually allowing a bigger 755 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:39,360 picture to unfold 756 00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:40,620 um for the past two years I've been 757 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:42,659 proactive in promoting the reality of 758 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,840 UFO activity to the Australian public 759 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,520 um in that time I've had two further 760 00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:50,400 sightings not encounters but both of 761 00:26:54,049 --> 00:26:51,840 these have been in broad daylight with 762 00:26:56,210 --> 00:26:54,059 other UFO experiences 763 00:26:58,370 --> 00:26:56,220 this photo was one I took in March last 764 00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:58,380 year at 9 30 in the morning over Sydney 765 00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:01,020 Harbor blown up it looks like a large 766 00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:03,960 white triangle it sat there in the same 767 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,880 spot for one to two minutes then seemed 768 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,159 to flash and disappear and this occurred 769 00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:09,600 the day after I'd spoken at my first 770 00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:12,299 conference the other sighting I had was 771 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,700 again in Sydney with another experiencer 772 00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,559 and looked like a large round silver 773 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:18,659 ball bearing floating in and out of the 774 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,480 clouds and no camera this time but uh 775 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,039 once again it was the day before a major 776 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,200 conference so if you go outside at some 777 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,640 stage this afternoon look up you never 778 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:28,320 know your luck 779 00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:31,140 well um I guess that's about it from me 780 00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:32,520 um thanks for your patronage at this 781 00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:33,779 session and I really hope that it'll 782 00:27:37,549 --> 00:27:35,460 provide you with a deeper Insight not 783 00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:37,559 only into my own case but the abduction 784 00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,419 phenomena as a whole and and in 785 00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,279 particular that this phenomena is having 786 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,200 an effect on real human lives not just